I recently purchased a Dell Vostro 1710 17" laptop, with 2.1GHz Core2 Duo, 4GB RAM and 1920x1200 display for £624 + VAT.
The requirement was for a new machine to be used as a 'desktop replacement' laptop. As I'm a software developer, it needed a big screen, lots of ram, and to have virtualisation support in the CPU. Fast OpenGL support didn't hurt either :-)
I have added an OCZ Vertex drive. This gives a fast SSD drive for the OS and the second drive bay will let me use the 320GB drive to provide storage capacity. (If I can ever get a cable for it...) See SSD benchmarks for performance details.
I'm outlining a few pieces of information which I discovered.
All in all, I am very happy with my purchase - the only real flies in the ointment are the missing second hdd cable and the lack of integral webcam support in Ubuntu 8.10.
If there's any more information which I can provide, let me know with a comment below.
chris@vostro:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub (rev 0c)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port (rev 0c)
00:1a.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 (rev 03)
00:1a.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 (rev 03)
00:1a.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
00:1c.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1 (rev 03)
00:1c.1 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2 (rev 03)
00:1c.3 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4 (rev 03)
00:1c.4 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5 (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 03)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 03)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1 (rev 03)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge (rev f3)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.2 SATA controller: Intel Corporation 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller (rev 03)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller (rev 03)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation GeForce 8600M GS (rev a1)
06:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection (rev 02)
07:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
08:05.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): O2 Micro, Inc. Firewire (IEEE 1394) (rev 02)
08:05.2 SD Host controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MMC/SD Controller (rev 02)
08:05.3 Mass storage controller: O2 Micro, Inc. Integrated MS/xD Controller (rev 01)
chris@vostro:~$ lsusb
Bus 007 Device 004: ID 0c45:63e0 Microdia
Bus 007 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 045e:00cb Microsoft Corp.
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 004 Device 003: ID 413c:8140 Dell Computer Corp. Wireless 360 Bluetooth
Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0483:2016 SGS Thomson Microelectronics Fingerprint Reader
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0001 Linux Foundation 1.1 root hub
chris@vostro:~$ sudo lshw
vostro
description: Portable Computer
product: Vostro1710
vendor: Dell Inc.
version: Null
serial: HCK974J
width: 64 bits
capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall64 vsyscall32
configuration: boot=oem-specific chassis=portable
*-core
description: Motherboard
product: 0X805C
vendor: Dell Inc.
physical id: 0
serial: .HCK974J.CN129618CJ2931.
*-firmware
description: BIOS
vendor: Dell Inc.
physical id: 1
version: A10 (10/09/2008)
size: 108KiB
capabilities: isa pci pcmcia pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot acpi usb agp biosbootspecification
*-cpu
description: CPU
product: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T8100 @ 2.10GHz
vendor: Intel Corp.
physical id: 5
bus info: cpu@0
version: CPU Version
slot: U2E1
size: 1200MHz
capacity: 1200MHz
width: 64 bits
clock: 800MHz
capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl pni monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr sse4_1 lahf_lm ida cpufreq
*-cache:0
description: L1 cache
physical id: 6
size: 32KiB
capacity: 32KiB
capabilities: internal write-back
*-cache:1
description: L2 cache
physical id: 7
size: 3MiB
capacity: 4MiB
capabilities: burst internal write-back
*-memory
description: System Memory
physical id: 11
slot: System board or motherboard
size: 4GiB
*-bank:0
description: SODIMM Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
product: M4 70T5663EH3-CF7
vendor: CE00000000000000
physical id: 0
serial: 78742F43
slot: JDIM1
size: 2GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
*-bank:1
description: SODIMM Synchronous 800 MHz (1.2 ns)
product: M4 70T5663EH3-CF7
vendor: CE00000000000000
physical id: 1
serial: 78743139
slot: JDIM2
size: 2GiB
width: 64 bits
clock: 800MHz (1.2ns)
*-pci
description: Host bridge
product: Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 Memory Controller Hub
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 100
bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
version: 0c
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
*-pci:0
description: PCI bridge
product: Mobile PM965/GM965/GL960 PCI Express Root Port
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1
bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
version: 0c
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
*-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: GeForce 8600M GS
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0 module=nvidia
*-usb:0
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:1
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.1
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:2
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1a.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1a.7
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm debug bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 module=ehci_hcd
*-multimedia
description: Audio device
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1b
bus info: pci@0000:00:1b.0
version: 03
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0 module=snd_hda_intel
*-pci:1
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
*-pci:2
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.1
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
*-pci:3
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 4
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.3
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
*-network
description: Wireless interface
product: PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:06:00.0
logical name: wmaster0
version: 02
serial: 00:1f:3c:c9:7c:81
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress bus_master cap_list logical ethernet physical wireless
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=iwl3945 ip=212.56.103.90 latency=0 module=iwl3945 multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11abg
*-pci:4
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) PCI Express Port 5
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1c.4
bus info: pci@0000:00:1c.4
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci pciexpress msi pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=pcieport-driver
*-network
description: Ethernet interface
product: RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller
vendor: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd.
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:07:00.0
logical name: eth0
version: 02
serial: 00:21:70:d6:5c:59
size: 10MB/s
capacity: 1GB/s
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix vpd bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd 1000bt 1000bt-fd autonegotiation
configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=r8169 driverversion=2.3LK-NAPI duplex=half latency=0 link=no module=r8169 multicast=yes port=MII speed=10MB/s
*-usb:3
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:4
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #2
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.1
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:5
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB UHCI Controller #3
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.2
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: bus_master
configuration: driver=uhci_hcd latency=0 module=uhci_hcd
*-usb:6
description: USB Controller
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) USB2 EHCI Controller #1
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1d.7
bus info: pci@0000:00:1d.7
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm debug bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 module=ehci_hcd
*-pci:5
description: PCI bridge
product: 82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1e
bus info: pci@0000:00:1e.0
version: f3
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pci bus_master cap_list
*-firewire
description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
product: Firewire (IEEE 1394)
vendor: O2 Micro, Inc.
physical id: 5
bus info: pci@0000:08:05.0
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=ohci1394 latency=64 module=ohci1394
*-system
description: SD Host controller
product: Integrated MMC/SD Controller
vendor: O2 Micro, Inc.
physical id: 5.2
bus info: pci@0000:08:05.2
version: 02
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
configuration: driver=sdhci-pci latency=32 module=sdhci_pci
*-storage UNCLAIMED
description: Mass storage controller
product: Integrated MS/xD Controller
vendor: O2 Micro, Inc.
physical id: 5.3
bus info: pci@0000:08:05.3
version: 01
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: storage pm cap_list
configuration: latency=32
*-isa
description: ISA bridge
product: 82801HEM (ICH8M) LPC Interface Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: isa bus_master cap_list
configuration: latency=0
*-ide
description: IDE interface
product: 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) IDE Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.1
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.1
logical name: scsi0
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: ide bus_master emulated
configuration: driver=ata_piix latency=0 module=ata_piix
*-cdrom
description: DVD-RAM writer
product: DVD+-RW AD-7640A
vendor: Optiarc
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/cdrom
logical name: /dev/cdrw
logical name: /dev/dvd
logical name: /dev/dvdrw
logical name: /dev/scd0
logical name: /dev/sr0
version: JD06
capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
configuration: ansiversion=5 status=open
*-storage
description: SATA controller
product: 82801HBM/HEM (ICH8M/ICH8M-E) SATA AHCI Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.2
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.2
logical name: scsi2
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 66MHz
capabilities: storage msi pm bus_master cap_list emulated
configuration: driver=ahci latency=0 module=ahci
*-disk
description: ATA Disk
product: OCZ VERTEX
physical id: 0.0.0
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0
logical name: /dev/sda
version: 00.P
serial: 48OEX2VSBWZJ7F1M616L
size: 30GiB (32GB)
capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=989c83e8
*-volume
description: EXT3 volume
vendor: Linux
physical id: 1
bus info: scsi@2:0.0.0,1
logical name: /dev/sda1
logical name: /
logical name: /dev/.static/dev
version: 1.0
serial: e875b10b-65ca-4b5e-9c60-3f69e16123c8
size: 30GiB
capacity: 30GiB
capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files recover ext3 ext2 initialized
configuration: created=2009-03-14 14:29:36 filesystem=ext3 label=vostro-root modified=2009-03-14 15:06:51 mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=ro,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered mounted=2009-03-14 14:48:03 state=mounted
*-serial UNCLAIMED
description: SMBus
product: 82801H (ICH8 Family) SMBus Controller
vendor: Intel Corporation
physical id: 1f.3
bus info: pci@0000:00:1f.3
version: 03
width: 32 bits
clock: 33MHz
configuration: latency=0
*-battery
description: Lithium Ion Battery
product: SANYO 06/01/01
vendor: SANYO 06/01/01
physical id: 1
slot: Rear
capacity: 57720mWh
configuration: voltage=11.1V
*-network DISABLED
description: Ethernet interface
physical id: 2
logical name: pan0
serial: fe:fc:26:b6:40:ea
capabilities: ethernet physical
configuration: broadcast=yes driver=bridge driverversion=2.3 firmware=N/A link=yes multicast=yes
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I have managed to find a UK supplier for the sata cables for the second hdd in the vostro 1710. The second hdd is now up and running :-) If you'd like details, just contact me.
2nd HDD cable....
Go on, let the cat out of the bag and say where you got the 2nd hdd cable from...
Richard
2nd HDD cable....
I'll go and find the details and get back to you shortly.
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Thats great, thanks Chris. I've actually just got off the phone to Dell (about 35 minute phone call) and they have said that they can supply the cable, but that it would be £60 + VAT! When I queried it, it appears the part is £4 and the rest of it is courier delivery.
He did offer an alternative though - if I buy a hard drive from them they could include one without adding the extra postage. Drawback, a 250gb 5400 spin HDD (no more details available) is £170 + Vat. Methinks I'm not going to rush into that option either...
You have actually got me thining about using a SSD though, so I might try that as well.
Once again, many thanks.
Richard
2nd HDD cable....
I bought the cable from a company called Upgrade Options Ltd.
I spoke to Emma-Louise.
IIRC, it cost about £12-15, including UK postage.
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Switchboard: +44 (0) 871 231 1900
Fax: +44 (0) 871 231 1921
Web: www.upgrade.co.uk
My order (not part) number was UO0226043 - this may help them find the correct part number for you.
Re: 2nd HDD cable...
Hi there,
I was trying to find out the spare parts needed to add 2nd hdd to vostro 1710 and found this page. Could you please share what all is needed? I read somewhere that apart from the hdd itself, I need the following parts:
- hdd caddy
- cable
- interposer
- screws
However it's very difficult to find out the part numbers (and the parts themselves). I found another relevant page, but not very sure the information is correct since the person who added the disk didn't confirm:
http://en.community.dell.com/forums/p/19245325/19382942.aspx#
From that page:
You will need the hard drive, hard drive bracket (T780F), and HDD cable-dual HDD (U185D). Note: N156F if the hard drive cable for the primary drive.
Also, you will need four M3x3 screws (HD to carrier) and three M2.5x5 screws (carrier to mobo).
thanks,
Tony
Re: 2nd HDD cable...
All I needed was the cable, and a couple of small screws I had lying round. If you're short of screws, you could secure each drive with just two screws.
I don't know what the 'interposer' is.
cheers
Many thanks...thats a lot better than buying it from Dell.
R.
Compare Apples with Dells
http://technologizer.com/2009/03/31/hey-lauren-is-apples-17-inch-macbook...
python dialog
Hi Chris
I liked PythonDialog for its simplicity. I would like to use it to create a text-user interface.
When I tried to install it, the code compiles alright. However, I can not run the demo file, with an error "executable file not found". setting up of paths has not helped.
I am using Python 2.5 on Ubuntu/ Opensuse. Can you help?
Thanks in advance,
-- ashish
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Dr. Ashish Asgekar
Physics Group,
BITS Pilani-Goa Campus,
Zuarinagar, Goa.
India 403 726
www.bits-goa.ac.in
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No reply from my email.
I was just making a reply (further up this thread) and realised that I had had no response when I sent you an email asking about you problem with PythonDialog (about three months ago).
Did you receive my email? If so, have you already solved the problem?